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Post by Whistler on Dec 7, 2018 12:41:02 GMT
The MOD 30 is my fave for grip. It fits really nicely in the hand and feels 'natural' but it's too small and obscures fuel and temp gauges.  Here's a pic of the Fittipaldi which doesn't do it justice at all.  |
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Post by niklas on Dec 8, 2018 22:53:12 GMT
I run a 350mm flat suede wheel with a narrow grip, rrs, i like it.
All time favorite wheel, nardi deep corn, black perforated leather. No contest. The protipo comes in second for me.
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Post by FFS Corders on Dec 9, 2018 21:49:49 GMT
Just realised that I have the same wheel as you on my Eunos, was on a rotten UK spec 1990 car I broke (car had a 1.8 transplant supposedly from a 1995 car). like you I have opted to drop the padded leather centre & just use a 'normal' Momo horn button  it's nice enough to drive with but not quite to my taste, maybe its the leather on the spokes  Rich. Interested to see what the centre looks like. When i got the car, i found a regular Eunos centre for the standard Momo wheel which didnt fit, so no idea what was meant to go there i really like mine, is a bit of a pain on longer journeys though and when it's on the snap off boss i find it's too close, with its large size meaning i quite often hit my legs with my hands when turning Definitely need to try some more wheels out...i've had a go with a couple but never found one that has wanted me to get rid of mine Bambi's wooden Nardi is a lovely item to look at and feels nice in the hand with its relatively thin rim, but it's definitely a wheel more for cruising on a nice day than for sporty driving |
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Post by Zed. on Dec 9, 2018 22:13:20 GMT
Interested to see what the centre looks like. When i got the car, i found a regular Eunos centre for the standard Momo wheel which didnt fit, so no idea what was meant to go there I'll sort a photo... hopefully  Rich. |
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Post by quinvy on Dec 9, 2018 23:57:07 GMT
The problem that I've found with a small diameter wheel is, it's bloody hard work when parking, manoeuvring, three point turns etc. with the not very PAS. A larger diameter wheel suits the car better, and I may go back to a momo prototipo which I really liked on my last car.
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Post by lowender on Dec 10, 2018 19:04:08 GMT
The problem that I've found with a small diameter wheel is, it's bloody hard work when parking, manoeuvring, three point turns etc. with the not very PAS. A larger diameter wheel suits the car better, and I may go back to a momo prototipo which I really liked on my last car. I changed my 350mm Momo Race for a 370mm oem Momo for this reason, but my rack is de-powered.  I |
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Post by quinvy on Dec 10, 2018 22:51:02 GMT
Blimey, I don't know how you do it. I went to look at a UK car a while ago which didn't have any power steering, it didn't have power anything actually. I kept reading that these cars were better without PAS, and that people were de powering their cars to get the ultimate experience.
Well all I can say is I must be a whimp, cos I thought it was like driving a Mk2 Cortina. Bloody awful. No way I could live with that.
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Post by lowender on Dec 10, 2018 23:08:53 GMT
Ha ha mine drives lovely, in a different league to a Mk2 Cortina. Maybe it's a generation thing, when I started driving, pas was an expensive option on big expensive cars, and unheard of in any thing else much. I was 40 before I had a car with pas.
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Post by wannabe on Dec 10, 2018 23:26:40 GMT
I'm sure I read/watched something about how the 5 was developed with PAS and it was only UK dealers saying they wanted non-PAS options that meant a non-PAS rack was created, which the developers thought was inferior but they also hadn't quite finished optimisation of the PAS rack. I think the designer (Bob someone?? lol) agreed when asked the question about it?
And apparently the developer chaps actually continued to work on their own cars' racks after it was all signed off, and created better versions, but the details are unknown and/or lost to the mists of time?
It's all a bit 'urban myths and legends' really... lol
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Post by lowender on Dec 10, 2018 23:45:05 GMT
Yep, plenty of myths and legends, conspiracy theories and misinformation - just like everything nowadays.......  Whatever, I like mine manual, and find the pas makes the steering less tactile. The standard manual rack and the power steering rack are pretty much the same, just the ratio is different. The de-powered option is the best of both worlds for me.  |
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Post by Zed. on Dec 10, 2018 23:53:13 GMT
I'm sure I read/watched something about how the 5 was developed with PAS and it was only UK dealers saying they wanted non-PAS options that meant a non-PAS rack was created, which the developers thought was inferior but they also hadn't quite finished optimisation of the PAS rack. I think the designer (Bob someone?? lol) agreed when asked the question about it? I've read that also I think that the pas pressure is too high & maybe the pumps speed also (regularly hear about 'boiling' / overflowing reservoirs??) might play with pulley sizes (crankshaft?) and the relief-valve oneday...... Rich. |
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Post by lowender on Dec 11, 2018 0:04:27 GMT
I think that the pas pressure is too high & maybe the pumps speed also (regularly hear about 'boiling' / overflowing reservoirs??) might play with pulley sizes (crankshaft?) andthe relief-valve oneday...... Rich. Just take all that stuff off! Save weight, too. The fact that the fluid pees out every time you drive it like a sports car is shocking really. Fine for the supermarket  not so good when driven hard  YMMV. |
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Post by Zed. on Dec 11, 2018 0:30:09 GMT
I think that the pas pressure is too high & maybe the pumps speed also (regularly hear about 'boiling' / overflowing reservoirs??) might play with pulley sizes (crankshaft?) andthe relief-valve oneday...... Rich. Just take all that stuff off! Save weight, too. The fact that the fluid pees out every time you drive it like a sports car is shocking really. Fine for the supermarket not so good when driven hard YMMV. if I was racing then maybe wieght would be an issue, as I'm nearly 17st maybe a few kgs of car is not an issue  as to the 'feel' of the de-powered rack, maybe thats all well&good but as a fun car ease of driveability is my goal if you want a heavy steering with great feedback, my last mk2 escort rallycar had a 1.9:1 ratio rack, combined with a healthy dose of caster this was just about perfect - but HEAVY especially with sticky tyres  as to the pas fluid overflowing, maybe a larger reservoir (but retaining the standard fliud capacity) or maybe with a larger diameter 'filler' / vent to hopefully counteract the foaming overflow that the standard-fit reservoir (shape limited by design in available space??) dunno, its something I'll play with over the winter if I've time as I have a standard manual rack on the car and a full pas kit to experiment with maybe even eps column conversion so variable assistance at the twist of a resistor OR even speed-related so easily parked but direct at speed Sorta Rich. |
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Post by lowender on Dec 11, 2018 9:50:47 GMT
as to the 'feel' of the de-powered rack, maybe thats all well&good but as a fun car ease of driveability is my goal Rich. This is the bit I don't understand - my car is super easy to drive, not heavy at all, Mrs Ender is 65 and has a bad back, but has no difficulty driving the car, says it feels proper, like her old Astra GTE which had a manual rack. Oh well, I'm very happy with it, that's the main thing. |
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Post by wannabe on Dec 11, 2018 13:38:35 GMT
I do prefer the feel of a depowered PAS rack, but I think it would be harder to 'catch' if the back end came round?
I know snap oversteer on ice last year caught me out, even at about 15mph, but I'm not sure anyone would have been able to get it round to the lockstops in the couple of seconds between straight and travelling sideways, even with PAS! lol
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not so good when driven hard 
le sigh